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The thing is, if they keep delaying, their release will be outdated. China's been converting their scoorters and motorbikes to electric and it's very observable when you visit, say Shanghai. So many scooters but it was so weird not hearing anything except when they honk.

Harley Livewire looks sharp and I bet it's a blast to ride but the price is... should i say... up there. Rich people bracket up there! You're talking 30 to 35 grand. For that money I could pack my garage with a few used classic bikes. Is it worht it? maybe they'll come down on the price later or...

Thinking about the Livewire down under and wondering if it landed too soon. We all know electric bikes are coming but Australia's a bit behind the US and Europe right? Anyone actually riding one here and got some real world opinions? Not looking to buy just curious if they're holding up in our...